{"id":2011,"date":"2022-10-21T19:38:33","date_gmt":"2022-10-21T19:38:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/?p=2011"},"modified":"2022-11-26T12:26:47","modified_gmt":"2022-11-26T12:26:47","slug":"grazyna-niezgoda","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/sk\/grazyna-niezgoda\/","title":{"rendered":"Gra\u017cyna Niezgoda"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Rozhovor sa uskuto\u010dnil 24. septembra 2022 v kaviarni Libera v Przemy\u015bli.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB: <\/strong>Dobr\u00fd de\u0148, ako som u\u017e spomenul, Kult\u00farna spolo\u010dnos\u0165 Przemy\u015bl sa podie\u013ea na projekte spolufinancovanom Po\u013esk\u00fdm historick\u00fdm m\u00fazeom. Hlavn\u00fdm cie\u013eom je vytvori\u0165 internetov\u00fd port\u00e1l, kde sa bud\u00fa zhroma\u017e\u010fova\u0165 spomienky, texty, rozhovory, ale aj arch\u00edvne publik\u00e1cie a jednoducho suven\u00edry star\u00fdch \u010dias.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN: <\/strong>Je tam aj kr\u00e1sny arch\u00edv, ktor\u00fd niekde m\u00e1m, fotky od W\u0142adys\u0142awa Szulca zo Sanoku, fotografa, ktor\u00e9 mi darovala jeho dc\u00e9ra, ktor\u00e9 mus\u00edm n\u00e1js\u0165. Existuje aj d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00fd release s n\u00e1zvom \u201e25 x S\u0142onne\u201c, ktor\u00fd geni\u00e1lne urobil Tadeusz Nuckowski a Nuckowski, ako vieme, spolupracoval so \u201eStrychom\u201c. Edward Robinson, ktor\u00e9ho tu vid\u00edm na obr\u00e1zku, je zauj\u00edmav\u00fd n\u00e1met na samostatn\u00fd pr\u00edbeh. Mo\u017eno by ste mohli nap\u00edsa\u0165 nie\u010do tak\u00e9to. Bolo by dobr\u00e9 \u00eds\u0165 cestou mal\u00fdch textov. Ka\u017ed\u00fa tak\u00fato spomienku jednoducho uzatvorte do jedn\u00e9ho textu. O Edwarda Robinsona som sa staral osobne, preto\u017ee sa uk\u00e1zalo, \u017ee i\u0161iel tam do dediny Pra\u0142kowce a robil olt\u00e1r v miestnom kostole. A tam to niekto dal do presbyt\u00e9ria a v\u0161etci na to zabudli. Chv\u00ed\u013eu tam sedel, nevedel po po\u013esky a robil svoje umenie. Nau\u010dila som ho jazdi\u0165 autobusom, na moju smolu, lebo potom ku mne chodil skoro ka\u017ed\u00fd de\u0148, objavil sa na byte a ja som sa o\u0148ho musela stara\u0165. Vyrobil dreven\u00fd olt\u00e1r, ktor\u00fd daroval farnosti, no farnos\u0165 ho neprijala, preto\u017ee i\u0161lo o ve\u013emi abstraktn\u00fd olt\u00e1r. Bolo to po\u010das festivalu \u010clovek-Boh-Svet. Je dokonca mo\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee ho sem priviedla Helen Ganlyov\u00e1. Na plen\u00e9ri v z\u00e1mku v Krasiczyne boli aj umelci z Oxfordu, ktor\u00fdch Helen priviedla. Marek Kuchci\u0144ski n\u00e1m vtedy platil za pobyt na fare 1 dol\u00e1r na de\u0148 na \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edka, lebo to bol konverzn\u00fd kurz za zlot\u00fd. T\u00edto umelci boli ve\u013emi znepokojen\u00ed a chceli n\u00e1m pom\u00f4c\u0165, ke\u010f videli, ak\u00fd je tu \u017eivot. Potom vykon\u00e1vali r\u00f4zne druhy umeleck\u00fdch \u010dinnost\u00ed a pr\u00e1c. Roger Perkins potom z dreva vytvoril tak\u00e9ho \u010dloveka, tak\u00fa \u013eudsk\u00fa postavu. T\u00fa chcel m\u00fazeu darova\u0165, no nepodarilo sa, m\u00fazeum dielo neprijalo. Bol by to pre nich asi probl\u00e9m, preto\u017ee Perkins pou\u017eil materi\u00e1l, ktor\u00fd nebol ve\u013emi odoln\u00fd, dreven\u00e9 dosky, ktor\u00e9 neboli vysu\u0161en\u00e9, to konzerv\u00e1tori nezvl\u00e1dli. Okrem toho to bol ve\u013ek\u00fd form\u00e1t diela. Ale vr\u00e1\u0165me sa k v\u00e1\u0161mu projektu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB:<\/strong> Chcel som hovori\u0165 o celom tomto hnut\u00ed, o \u201epodkrov\u00ed\u201c a stretnutiach. Ako si spom\u00ednate, ke\u010f to u v\u00e1s za\u010dalo?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> Podkrovn\u00e9 stretnutia sa za\u010dali v mojom a Marekovom byte a vlastne aj u jeho rodi\u010dov na ul. Matejki.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB:<\/strong> A nie v Ostr\u00f3we pri Przemy\u015bli?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> Nie, potom nesk\u00f4r, ur\u010dite s Marekov\u00fdmi rodi\u010dmi \u2013 Janinou a Zbigniewom. Mal som poetick\u00e9 stretnutie s poetkou Barbarou Tondosovou. M\u00e1m nejak\u00e9 fotky z toho stretnutia, mus\u00edm ich n\u00e1js\u0165. Neexistuj\u00fa \u017eiadne fotografie toho posledn\u00e9ho a v\u0161etci n\u00e1m neust\u00e1le hovorili, \u017ee by sme mali zdokumentova\u0165, \u010do rob\u00edme. Spo\u010diatku sme do toho nemali ve\u013ek\u00fa hlavu. Bola som vtedy vdova, mala som mal\u00e9 die\u0165a, pr\u00e1cu at\u010f. U Mareka bolo stretnutie s b\u00e1snikom J\u00f3zefom Kurylakom, z ktor\u00e9ho sa nesk\u00f4r vyklubal agent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB:<\/strong> \u00c1no, pozn\u00e1m tento dramatick\u00fd pr\u00edbeh.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> Potom sa v\u0161etko presunulo do Marekovho domu v Ostr\u00f3we.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB: <\/strong>Bol teda ve\u013ek\u00fd z\u00e1ujem pokra\u010dova\u0165 v stretnutiach?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> O to celkom ne\u0161lo. Len sme vtedy \u017eili v in\u00fdch \u010dasoch, kde sa v\u0161etci stret\u00e1vali doma. Teraz by sme sa napr\u00edklad nestretli tu v kaviarni, ale doma. Tento z\u00e1padn\u00fd trend z Franc\u00fazska, Talianska - stretnutia v re\u0161taur\u00e1ci\u00e1ch - sa k n\u00e1m dostal len ned\u00e1vno. Potom sme sa stretli doma. Hostil som obrovsk\u00e9 mno\u017estvo \u013eud\u00ed, skupiny umelcov vo vlastnom byte. Dal som si jedlo, \u010daj a to bolo v\u0161etko. A vtedy mi ani nenapadlo, \u017ee by to mohlo by\u0165 inak. Okrem toho hnutie, o ktorom hovor\u00edme, bolo teraz v opoz\u00edcii vo\u010di vtedaj\u0161ej situ\u00e1cii v krajine. \u010casto n\u00e1s sledovali a tak\u00e9to stretnutia sa potom dali nahr\u00e1va\u0165. Pam\u00e4t\u00e1m si napr\u00edklad, ako som mal neust\u00e1le rozb\u00edjan\u00e9 okn\u00e1 na mojom DeSie, na ktorom som vtedy jazdil v Przemy\u015bli. \u010casto som bdel a\u017e do r\u00e1na, aby mi niekto neukradol cenn\u00fd tovar, a to si treba pam\u00e4ta\u0165, boli to \u0161pecifick\u00e9 \u010dasy. Nechcel som vystavi\u0165 svojich zamestnancov riziku. Bolo ve\u013emi nepohodln\u00e9 by\u0165 \u0161ikanovan\u00fd tajnou pol\u00edciou, bolo to hrozn\u00e9, bolo mi vtedy \u010dasto zle. Nebolo to a\u017e tak\u00e9 jednoduch\u00e9, no zvyk stret\u00e1va\u0165 sa pre\u017eil, \u010dasto sa odohr\u00e1vali v zauj\u00edmavej spolo\u010dnosti. Po presunut\u00ed stretnut\u00ed k Marekovi do Ostr\u00f3wa sa uk\u00e1zalo, \u017ee podmienky s\u00fa v\u00fdborn\u00e9. Prv\u00e1 v\u00fdstava, pam\u00e4t\u00e1m si, bola jednotn\u00e1, potom boli skupinov\u00e9 v\u00fdstavy. Dokonca som nap\u00edsal list, v ktorom som pozval umelcov a v\u0161etci odpovedali. V\u00fdstavu sme prezentovali v suter\u00e9ne oo. franti\u0161k\u00e1nov v Przemy\u015bli, bolo o \u0148u treba spolo\u010densky postara\u0165. Otcovia n\u00e1m dali svoj priestor a ni\u010d necenzurovali. Na festivalov\u00fdch v\u00fdstav\u00e1ch nech\u00fdbali ani poriadne \u0161okuj\u00face obrazy, ako napr\u00edklad Janusz Szpyta, ktor\u00fd hovoril o hanoben\u00ed Kristov\u00fdch slov \u013eu\u010fmi...<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB: <\/strong>Nikomu to nevadilo?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> Nie, tieto v\u00fdstavy mali pozit\u00edvny ohlas u franti\u0161k\u00e1nov aj u publika a umelci uk\u00e1zali, \u010do chceli. Svoje diela predstavil aj u\u017e ne\u017eij\u00faci grafik Zygmunt Czy\u017c z Rzeszowa. Aj v Po\u013esku bolo zn\u00e1mych ve\u013ea mien. K tomuto hnutiu som sa pridala po man\u017eelovej smrti v roku 1985. Ako som u\u017e spom\u00ednala, prv\u00e1 v\u00fdstava bola striktne Przemy\u015blsk\u00e1, potom sme v\u00fdber umelcov roz\u0161\u00edrili pod\u013ea Przemy\u015blskej diec\u00e9zy. \u010eal\u0161ie v\u00fdstavy u\u017e boli hos\u0165ami zo zahrani\u010dia, napr. Helen Ganly, Edward Robinson, vtedaj\u0161\u00ed v\u00fdznamn\u00fd plen\u00e9r v Krasiczyne. Tu v tomto \u010d\u00edsle 2019 \u201eStrych Kulturalny\u201c je cel\u00fd kalend\u00e1r... Je tu Margaret Steel Hunter, \u0160k\u00f3tka, a profesor David Reagan zo Spojen\u00fdch \u0161t\u00e1tov. Ve\u013emi d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00fdm menom je Marek Sapeto, umelec, ktor\u00fd mal svoju individu\u00e1lnu v\u00fdstavu. Je tu aj spolo\u010dn\u00e1 v\u00fdstava Cepi\u0144ski\/Ko\u015bciuk.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB: <\/strong>\u00c1no, je tu fotografia z poslednej v\u00fdstavy uverejnenej v tomto \u010d\u00edsle 2019 &quot;Podkrovie&quot;. Niektor\u00e9 z arch\u00edvnych materi\u00e1lov fotografie u\u017e boli \u010diasto\u010dne naskenovan\u00e9. Chceme to v\u0161etko spr\u00edstupni\u0165 \u013eu\u010fom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> Ke\u010f si prezer\u00e1m tieto fotografie, vid\u00edm ve\u013emi d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00fa osobu - otca Partyka. Na fotke vid\u00edm aj Magdalenu Hniedziewicz, ktor\u00fa sme pozvali do poroty festivalu. Potom sa k n\u00e1m pridala na dlh\u0161ie a pri\u0161la. Ve\u013emi d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00fd umeleck\u00fd kritik. Je tam aj Kaziu Wi\u015bniak, ktor\u00fd bol v porote. Je tu aj Marysia Witkiewicz, maliarka, o ktorej som hovoril v\u010dera po\u010das mojej predn\u00e1\u0161ky o umelkyniach z Przemy\u015blu. Vid\u00edm tu aj obrazy Stanis\u0142awa Kobu, ale kolekt\u00edvnu v\u00fdstavu. Pam\u00e4t\u00e1m si pr\u00edbeh z tejto v\u00fdstavy, \u017ee Jadwiga Sawicka, vtedaj\u0161ia Kobova partnerka, priniesla na v\u00fdstavu e\u0161te mokr\u00e9 obrazy, nama\u013eovan\u00e9 doslova de\u0148 predt\u00fdm. Tieto obrazy sme str\u00e1\u017eili v pivnici, boli to ve\u013ek\u00e9 miestnosti. Teraz si hovor\u00edm, \u017ee to mohlo by\u0165 ob\u0165a\u017eovanie alebo nejak\u00fd idiot, ale niekto jednoducho ozna\u010dil tieto mokr\u00e9 ma\u013eby prstom namo\u010den\u00fdm vo farbe, \u010d\u00edm ich zni\u010dil. Zauj\u00edmav\u00e9 je, \u017ee tu vid\u00edm neskor\u0161ieho vojvodu Niemkiewicza... Ne\u010dakali sme, \u017ee niektor\u00ed z n\u00e1s sa nesk\u00f4r stan\u00fa politikmi na vojvodskej alebo n\u00e1rodnej \u00farovni.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB: <\/strong>Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee toto nikto ne\u010dakal. A c\u00edtili ste z\u00e1van bezpe\u010dia na chrbte?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN: <\/strong>V\u00e4\u010d\u0161inou sme vedeli, \u017ee n\u00e1s sleduj\u00fa, \u017ee id\u00fa za nami autami a parkuj\u00fa na mieste stretnutia. Mali sme to vedomie. Napr\u00edklad v na\u0161ej dne\u0161nej re\u0161taur\u00e1cii Libera pred\u00e1vali jej spolumajitelia Beata a Jurek Bon\u00e1rek po\u010das festivalu samostatn\u00e9 knihy. Aj ja som nosil tak\u00e9to knihy. Podporovala som aj KOR a mala som svoj z\u00e1sobovac\u00ed kan\u00e1l v Rzeszowe, k\u00fdm m\u00f4j man\u017eel, ktor\u00fd zomrel v roku 1983, e\u0161te \u017eil. Barbara Tondos a Jerzy Tur \u2013 vynikaj\u00faci historici umenia spojen\u00ed so Solidaritou \u2013 pr\u00e1ve od nich som si zobral ta\u0161ky s knihami, ktor\u00e9 som si k\u00fapil. Vo v\u0161eobecnosti bolo toto centrum Przemy\u015bl ve\u013emi siln\u00e9, spom\u00ednan\u00e9 v publik\u00e1ci\u00e1ch o n\u00e1rodn\u00fdch centr\u00e1ch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB:<\/strong> Na v\u0161etk\u00fdch t\u00fdchto \u013eud\u00ed a udalosti m\u00e1te \u00fa\u017easn\u00fa pam\u00e4\u0165. U\u017e som sa rozpr\u00e1val s p\u00e1r \u013eu\u010fmi a s touto spomienkou je to in\u00e9...<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> \u010eakujem. A tu vid\u00edm Jacka Fedorowicza. Osobne som ho na stretnutiach s autormi presved\u010dil, aby svoje diela pred\u00e1val. V tom \u010dase som ich mal aj vo svojom obchode - ve\u013ea satirick\u00fdch kresieb, vr\u00e1tane ako napr\u00edklad Wa\u0142\u0119sa. Bol mi za to ve\u013emi v\u010fa\u010dn\u00fd, lebo sa t\u00fdm aj vtedy \u017eivil. Dokonca ako po\u010fakovanie pri\u0161iel sem do Przemy\u015bla po\u010das prv\u00fdch volieb, aby podporil v\u00fdbory. A druh\u00e1 historka, ktor\u00e1 sa k nemu via\u017ee, je, \u017ee po\u010das n\u00e1v\u0161tevy u m\u0148a ist\u00fd \u010das b\u00fdval. Jeden z kolegov sa ma vtedy op\u00fdtal, ako ma mohol tak odhali\u0165... Tadek Boruta, ktor\u00fd teraz vytvoril publik\u00e1ciu, ktor\u00e1 by v\u00e1s mohla zauj\u00edma\u0165. Umelci sa zaoberali grafickou \u00fapravou v tla\u010den\u00fdch vydaniach \u201eStrych Kulturny\u201c. Prv\u00e9 \u010d\u00edslo vydal Miros\u0142aw Koco\u0142, potom Jadwiga Sawicka a Stanis\u0142aw Koba. Bola to ve\u013emi zauj\u00edmav\u00e1 grafick\u00e1 pr\u00e1ca. Mirek to v\u0161etko graficky upravil a urobil sadzbu. Aj Mikrutovci boli od za\u010diatku v \u201eStrychu kulturnom\u201c. Ko\u015bciuk tie\u017e kreslil. Vizu\u00e1lna str\u00e1nka bola st\u00e1le d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e1 a robili ju profesion\u00e1li na vysokej \u00farovni. Tadek Nuckowski, jeden z najv\u00fdznamnej\u0161\u00edch umelcov v Przemy\u015bli, pripravil prostredie pre v\u00fdstavu \u010clovek \u2013 Boh \u2013 Svet. Na tvorbe cel\u00e9ho grafick\u00e9ho dizajnu sa podie\u013eali tak\u00ed ve\u013ek\u00ed umelci ako Andrzej Cieszy\u0144ski. Mariusz Ko\u015bciuk sa potom pres\u0165ahoval do \u017bycie Przemyskie, dnes Podkarpackie, a stal sa grafick\u00fdm dizajn\u00e9rom v redakcii. Marta Siennicka l\u00e1kala umelcov na podujatia a plen\u00e9ry, preto\u017ee \u017eila vo Var\u0161ave a toto prostredie jej bolo zn\u00e1me. Podarilo sa n\u00e1m nadviaza\u0165 kontakty aj so zahrani\u010d\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB:<\/strong> M\u00f4\u017eete n\u00e1m poveda\u0165, ako sa v\u00e1m podarilo pril\u00e1ka\u0165 \u013eud\u00ed zo Z\u00e1padu?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN: <\/strong>Pravdepodobne sem pri\u0161li \u010diasto\u010dne n\u00e1hodou a \u010diasto\u010dne zo zvedavosti. Zahrani\u010dn\u00ed umelci mohli na svoju cestu z\u00edska\u0165 \u0161tipendi\u00e1 a dot\u00e1cie od svojich zahrani\u010dn\u00fdch in\u0161tit\u00faci\u00ed. Aj nez\u00e1visl\u00e9 hnutie v Po\u013esku malo svoj rozpo\u010det a takto sa z\u00edskavali prostriedky na ich pr\u00edchod. Nehovorilo sa o tom, ale bolo. Hostia pri\u0161li dokonca aj zo Spojen\u00fdch \u0161t\u00e1tov americk\u00fdch a hovorili okrem in\u00e9ho o ich vzdel\u00e1vacom syst\u00e9me. Hovorilo sa o negramotnosti a o tom, \u017ee americk\u00e9 \u0161kolstvo nie je dokonal\u00e9. T\u00e9my boli v\u00e1\u017ene a nech\u00fdbalo mno\u017estvo skvel\u00fdch predn\u00e1\u0161ok a diskusi\u00ed. Pri\u0161li ve\u013ek\u00e9 men\u00e1 ako Leszek Moczulski a skupina \u0141\u00f3d\u017a Kaliska. Bola to pre nich naozaj ve\u013ek\u00e1 vec pr\u00eds\u0165 sem. Zostal som s nimi cez noc. V\u0161etko to bolo trochu s\u00fakromn\u00e9, trochu ofici\u00e1lne, ale rozhodne nez\u00e1visl\u00e9. Marek Kuchci\u0144ski mal svoj dom, kde mohol prenocova\u0165 prakticky s k\u00fdmko\u013evek.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB: <\/strong>No dnes by to mohlo by\u0165 \u00faplne inak. Umelci by b\u00fdvali v hoteloch, stretnutia sa konali v konferen\u010dnej miestnosti alebo v umeleckej gal\u00e9rii\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> V skuto\u010dnosti prich\u00e1dzali do divokej krajiny. Divok\u00fd a komunistick\u00fd. Spom\u00ednam si na anekdotu, ke\u010f som vzal Helen Ganlyov\u00fa na workshop pod hol\u00fdm nebom, ktor\u00fd organizoval Janusz Cywicki v S\u0142onne. Povedal som jej: Helenka, ideme do star\u00e9ho u\u010debn\u00e9ho centra a tam bud\u00fa hrozn\u00e9 podmienky. Helenu to neodradilo a i\u0161la. Asi po t\u00fd\u017edni sme sa odviezli ku mne domov v Przemy\u015bli po nejak\u00e9 veci. Helen v mojom dome ukradla zo \u0161atn\u00edka nejak\u00e9 plachty. Ke\u010f som to videl, sp\u00fdtal som sa, na \u010do ich berie. Povedala, \u017ee by chcela prikry\u0165 plachty v izbe v S\u0142onne. Na \u010do som povedal: Helenka, tam s\u00fa plachty! Uk\u00e1zalo sa v\u0161ak, \u017ee \u00faboh\u00e9 diev\u010da dostalo na ten t\u00fd\u017ede\u0148 poste\u013e bez oblie\u010dok. Po\u010das tejto doby v\u0161ak nemala odvahu uplatni\u0165 si ju v centre. \u00daboh\u00e9 diev\u010da vtedy spalo pod prikr\u00fdvkou a moje slov\u00e1 o zl\u00fdch podmienkach si vzalo k srdcu... O rok nesk\u00f4r Helen povedala, \u017ee do dielne pr\u00edde Winej z Indie, ale ka\u017ed\u00fd de\u0148 sa mus\u00ed k\u00fapa\u0165, upozornil . A sp\u00fdtala sa, ako to rob\u00edme v tomto centre, preto\u017ee v k\u00fape\u013eni nie je \u017eiadny h\u00e1\u010dik na zabezpe\u010denie s\u00fakromia. A pre n\u00e1s bolo norm\u00e1lne, \u017ee ke\u010f niekto okupuje k\u00fape\u013e\u0148u, tak to len po\u010dujete a nevch\u00e1dzate dovn\u00fatra. To boli rozdiely z\u00e1padn\u00e9ho sveta, ktor\u00e9 sa \u010dasom uk\u00e1zali dos\u0165 vtipn\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom. Na prvom plen\u00e9ri s otcom Bartmi\u0144skim v Krasiczyne, ktor\u00fd bol \u00fa\u017easn\u00fd \u010dlovek, ale to je samostatn\u00fd pr\u00edbeh, boli aj zl\u00e9 podmienky na presbyt\u00e9riu. Pam\u00e4t\u00e1m si, \u017ee tam bola miestnos\u0165 s poschodov\u00fdmi poste\u013eami a prikr\u00fdvkami. Jedlo k tomu bolo skvel\u00e9. Ve\u010f po vzore tej z presbyt\u00e9ria v Krasiczyne mala vzor aj sl\u00e1vna babi\u010dka J\u00f3zia zo s\u00e9rie Presbyterstvo! Pam\u00e4t\u00e1m si, \u017ee vtedy mlad\u00fd chlapec Janek Jarosz, dnes riadite\u013e N\u00e1rodn\u00e9ho m\u00fazea Przemy\u015blskej oblasti v Przemy\u015bli, zbieral \u013eud\u00ed z letiska vo Var\u0161ave. Raz dokonca zdvihol jedn\u00e9ho chlap\u00edka, ktor\u00fd bol jeho dvojn\u00edkom. Nebol to v\u0161ak pr\u00edjemn\u00fd chlap\u00edk a zdalo sa, \u017ee n\u00e1s trochu vyu\u017e\u00edva. Potom, \u010do sa ho vo Vroclave zbavili, mal u m\u0148a dokonca ist\u00fd \u010das b\u00fdva\u0165. V mojom byte bolo v tom \u010dase pomerne ve\u013ea \u013eud\u00ed. V tom \u010dase prebiehal festival \u010clovek-Boh-Svet a po festivale za mnou pri\u0161li takmer v\u0161etci. Niektor\u00ed hostia um\u00fdvali riad, in\u00ed sa v s\u00e1le u\u010dili jogu, niekto volal do Var\u0161avy, niekto plakal v inej miestnosti. V\u0161etci sa tak hem\u017eili, \u017ee pr\u00edpadn\u00fd n\u00e1v\u0161tevn\u00edk zo strachu odi\u0161iel k niekomu in\u00e9mu. Ja som sa vtedy zaoberal v\u00fdtvarn\u00fdm umen\u00edm a hos\u0165ami s n\u00edm spojen\u00fdmi, k\u00fdm Marek sa spolu s Janom Musia\u0142om venoval viac intelektu\u00e1lnej sf\u00e9re. Robili papierov\u00fa \u201epovi\u010dku\u201c. Je zauj\u00edmav\u00e9, \u017ee z\u00e1padn\u00ed umelci sa n\u00e1m sna\u017eili poveda\u0165, \u017ee syst\u00e9m, v ktorom sme \u017eili, bol pre n\u00e1s ist\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom ochranou. Mysleli t\u00fdm, \u017ee na vo\u013enom trhu s\u00fa probl\u00e9my finan\u010dn\u00e9ho charakteru, najm\u00e4 napr\u00edklad pri zabezpe\u010den\u00ed d\u00f4chodku. Tieto probl\u00e9my s\u00fa pr\u00edtomn\u00e9 u\u017e v modernej dobe, ale vtedy sme tomu e\u0161te nerozumeli. Hovorili aj o Art Week, kde umenie doslova vyrazilo do ul\u00edc mesta, otvorili ateli\u00e9ry pre verejnos\u0165, \u010do bolo pre n\u00e1s nie\u010do inovat\u00edvne. T\u00e1to v\u00fdmena sk\u00fasenost\u00ed bola naozaj zauj\u00edmav\u00e1 a d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e1. Ako si pam\u00e4t\u00e1m, nesk\u00f4r sa organizovali aj aukcie umenia a finan\u010dn\u00e1 zbierka na predvolebn\u00fa kampa\u0148 Solidarita. Jedna z tak\u00fdchto aukci\u00ed sa konala na Rynek 10 v Przemy\u015bli av m\u00fazeu. Uskuto\u010dnil som tieto aukcie, v\u0161etky diela boli predan\u00e9. Ceny neboli premr\u0161ten\u00e9, ale rozhodoval \u00fa\u010del. \u013dudia vtedy neboli zvyknut\u00ed na hodnotu pr\u00e1ce. V Krasiczyne viedol Marek Kuchci\u0144ski stretnutia a konferencie, ktor\u00e9 s\u00fa zatia\u013e pod in\u00fdm n\u00e1zvom (v s\u00fa\u010dasnosti Eur\u00f3pa Karp\u00e1t). Vtedy sme popri ka\u017edodennej pr\u00e1ci zorganizovali okolo 50 v\u00fdtvarn\u00fdch v\u00fdstav. Cel\u00e1 organiz\u00e1cia trvala ve\u013emi dlho, spo\u010d\u00edvala v p\u00edsan\u00ed kore\u0161pondencie, kontaktoch s \u013eu\u010fmi. Logistika spo\u010d\u00edvala predov\u0161etk\u00fdm na Marekovi, ktor\u00fd mal v tom \u010dase okrem tohto domu aj auto Toyota. Bezpe\u010dnostn\u00e1 slu\u017eba mu dokonca dala prez\u00fdvku \u201eToyota\u201c.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Respondent Alexander Busz<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Grazyna Niezgoda! 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Gra\u017cyna Niezgoda<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-archiwum-wolnosci wp-block-embed-archiwum-wolnosci\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"ByJD2qST1I\"><a href=\"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/sk\/i-plener-artystyczny-krasiczyn-1990\/\">Prv\u00fd umeleck\u00fd plen\u00e9r v Krasiczyne 1990<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&quot;I Krasiczyn Art Plein-Air 1990&quot; - Arch\u00edv slobody\" src=\"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/i-plener-artystyczny-krasiczyn-1990\/embed\/#?secret=36yge57FqP#?secret=ByJD2qST1I\" data-secret=\"ByJD2qST1I\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed 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K dispoz\u00edcii je aj v\u00fdznamn\u00e1 publik\u00e1cia s n\u00e1zvom \"25 x S\u0142onne\", ktor\u00fa vynikaj\u00faco spracoval Tadeusz Nuckowski.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":6157,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[33,14],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/sk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2011"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/sk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/sk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/sk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/sk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2011"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/sk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2011\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6505,"href":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/sk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2011\/revisions\/6505"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/sk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/6157"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/sk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2011"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/sk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2011"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/sk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2011"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}