{"id":2011,"date":"2022-10-21T19:38:33","date_gmt":"2022-10-21T19:38:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/?p=2011"},"modified":"2022-11-26T12:26:47","modified_gmt":"2022-11-26T12:26:47","slug":"grazyna-niezgoda","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/archiwumwolnosci.pl\/cs\/grazyna-niezgoda\/","title":{"rendered":"Gra\u017cyna Niezgoda"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>P\u0159edn\u00e1\u0161ka se konala 24.09.2022 v kav\u00e1rn\u011b Libera v Przemy\u015blu.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB: <\/strong>Dobr\u00fd den, jak jsem se ji\u017e zm\u00ednil, Przemy\u015blsk\u00e1 kulturn\u00ed spole\u010dnost se \u00fa\u010dastn\u00ed projektu dotovan\u00e9ho Polsk\u00fdm historick\u00fdm muzeem. Hlavn\u00edm c\u00edlem je vytvo\u0159it internetov\u00fd port\u00e1l, kter\u00fd bude shroma\u017e\u010fovat vzpom\u00ednky, texty, rozhovory, ale i archivn\u00ed publikace a prost\u011b pam\u00e1tky na star\u00e9 \u010dasy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN: <\/strong>Existuje tak\u00e9 kr\u00e1sn\u00fd archiv, kter\u00fd n\u011bkde m\u00e1m, fotografie W\u0142adys\u0142awa Szulce ze Sanoku, fotografa, kter\u00e9 mi p\u0159edala jeho dcera, a kter\u00e9 mus\u00edm naj\u00edt. Existuje tak\u00e9 v\u00fdznamn\u00e1 publikace s n\u00e1zvem \"25 x Slonne\", kterou skv\u011ble zpracoval Tadeusz Nuckowski, a Nuckowski, jak v\u00edte, spolupracoval se \"Strychem\". Edward Robinson, kter\u00e9ho vid\u00edm na fotografii, je zaj\u00edmav\u00fd n\u00e1m\u011bt na samostatn\u00fd p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh. Mo\u017en\u00e1 by se n\u011bco takov\u00e9ho dalo napsat. Bylo by dobr\u00e9 j\u00edt cestou mal\u00fdch text\u016f. Ka\u017edou takovou pam\u011b\u0165 jednodu\u0161e zapouzd\u0159ete do jedin\u00e9ho textu. S Edwardem Robinsonem jsem jednal osobn\u011b, proto\u017ee se uk\u00e1zalo, \u017ee jel do Pra\u0142kowc\u016f a d\u011blal tam olt\u00e1\u0159 v kostele. A tam ho n\u011bkdo um\u00edstil na faru a v\u0161ichni na n\u011bj zapomn\u011bli. Chv\u00edli tam sed\u011bl, neznal pol\u0161tinu a v\u011bnoval se sv\u00e9mu um\u011bn\u00ed. K m\u00e9 sm\u016fle jsem ho nau\u010dil jezdit autobusem, proto\u017ee pak za mnou chodil skoro ka\u017ed\u00fd den, ubytoval se v byt\u011b a j\u00e1 se o n\u011bj musel starat. Vyrobil d\u0159ev\u011bn\u00fd olt\u00e1\u0159, kter\u00fd v\u011bnoval farnosti, ale farnost ho nep\u0159ijala, proto\u017ee to byl velmi abstraktn\u00ed olt\u00e1\u0159. Bylo to v dob\u011b sv\u00e1tku \u010clov\u011bk-B\u016fh-Sv\u011bt. Je dokonce mo\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee ji p\u0159inesla Helen Ganlyov\u00e1. Um\u011blci z Oxfordu, kter\u00e9 Helen p\u0159ivezla, byli tak\u00e9 na plen\u00e9ru na hrad\u011b Krasiczyn. Marek Kuchcinski tehdy platil na fa\u0159e za n\u00e1\u0161 pobyt jeden dolar denn\u011b za ka\u017ed\u00e9ho \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edka, proto\u017ee takov\u00fd byl kurz zlot\u00e9ho. Tito um\u011blci se o to velmi zaj\u00edmali a cht\u011bli n\u00e1m tehdy pomoci, kdy\u017e vid\u011bli, jak se tu \u017eije. Tehdy se v\u011bnovali nejr\u016fzn\u011bj\u0161\u00edm um\u011bleck\u00fdm \u010dinnostem a prac\u00edm. Roger Perkins pak vytvo\u0159il takov\u00e9ho \u010dlov\u011bka ze d\u0159eva, takovou lidskou postavu. Cht\u011bl ji v\u011bnovat muzeu, ale nevy\u0161lo to, muzeum d\u00edlo nep\u0159ijalo. Pravd\u011bpodobn\u011b by to pro n\u011b byl probl\u00e9m, proto\u017ee Perkins pou\u017eil nep\u0159\u00edli\u0161 trvanliv\u00fd materi\u00e1l, d\u0159ev\u011bn\u00e1 prkna, kter\u00e1 nebyla vysu\u0161en\u00e1, konzerv\u00e1to\u0159i by je nemuseli udr\u017eet. Krom\u011b toho se jednalo o velk\u00fd form\u00e1t d\u00edla. Vra\u0165me se v\u0161ak k va\u0161emu projektu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB:<\/strong> Cht\u011bl jsem mluvit o cel\u00e9m tomto hnut\u00ed, o \"podkrov\u00ed\" a o setk\u00e1n\u00edch. Jak na to vzpom\u00edn\u00e1te, kdy to pro v\u00e1s za\u010dalo?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> P\u016fdn\u00ed sch\u016fzky za\u010daly v m\u00e9m a Markov\u011b byt\u011b, vlastn\u011b u jeho rodi\u010d\u016f v Mat\u011bjsk\u00e9 ulici.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB:<\/strong> A ne v Ostrov\u011b u Przemy\u0161le?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> Ne, to a\u017e pozd\u011bji, nejprve ur\u010dit\u011b u Markov\u00fdch rodi\u010d\u016f Janiny a Zbigniewa. U m\u011b se konalo b\u00e1snick\u00e9 setk\u00e1n\u00ed s b\u00e1sn\u00ed\u0159kou Barbarou Tondosovou. Existuj\u00ed n\u011bjak\u00e9 fotografie z tohoto setk\u00e1n\u00ed, mus\u00edm je naj\u00edt. Z t\u00e9 druh\u00e9 nejsou \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 fotky a v\u0161ichni n\u00e1m \u0159\u00edkali, \u017ee bychom m\u011bli zdokumentovat, co d\u011bl\u00e1me. Ze za\u010d\u00e1tku jsme na to nem\u011bli moc hlavu. V t\u00e9 dob\u011b jsem byla vdova, m\u011bla jsem mal\u00e9 d\u00edt\u011b, pr\u00e1ci atd. U Marka se konala sch\u016fzka s b\u00e1sn\u00edkem J\u00f3zefem Kurylakem, z n\u011bho\u017e se pozd\u011bji vyklubal agent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB:<\/strong> Ano, tento dramatick\u00fd p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh zn\u00e1m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> Pak se v\u0161e p\u0159esunulo do Markova domu v Ostrov\u011b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB: <\/strong>Tak\u017ee o pokra\u010dov\u00e1n\u00ed sch\u016fzek byl velk\u00fd z\u00e1jem?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> O to ve skute\u010dnosti ne\u0161lo. Tehdy jsme prost\u011b \u017eili v jin\u00e9 dob\u011b, kdy se ka\u017ed\u00fd sch\u00e1zel doma. Te\u010f bychom se nap\u0159\u00edklad nese\u0161li tady v kav\u00e1rn\u011b, ale doma. Tento z\u00e1padn\u00ed trend z Francie, It\u00e1lie - setk\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed v restaurac\u00edch - se k n\u00e1m dostal teprve ned\u00e1vno. Tehdy jsme se sch\u00e1zeli doma. Ve sv\u00e9m byt\u011b jsem hostil obrovsk\u00e9 mno\u017estv\u00ed lid\u00ed, skupiny um\u011blc\u016f. Dal jsem si n\u011bco k j\u00eddlu, \u010daj a tak to \u0161lo d\u00e1l. A tehdy m\u011b nenapadlo, \u017ee by to mohlo b\u00fdt jinak. Krom\u011b toho hnut\u00ed, o kter\u00e9m nyn\u00ed mluv\u00edme, bylo v protikladu k tehdej\u0161\u00ed situaci v zemi. \u010casto jsme byli sledov\u00e1ni a takov\u00e1 setk\u00e1n\u00ed mohla b\u00fdt v t\u00e9 dob\u011b zaznamen\u00e1na. Vzpom\u00edn\u00e1m si nap\u0159\u00edklad, jak mi neust\u00e1le rozb\u00edjeli okna v m\u00e9m DeSu, kter\u00fd jsem tehdy provozoval v Przemy\u015blu. \u010casto jsem sed\u011bl a\u017e do r\u00e1na, abych se ujistil, \u017ee nikdo neukradne drahocenn\u00e9 zbo\u017e\u00ed, a je t\u0159eba si uv\u011bdomit, \u017ee to byly specifick\u00e9 \u010dasy. Necht\u011bl jsem sv\u00e9 zam\u011bstnance vystavovat riziku. \u0160ikana ze strany tajn\u00e9 policie byla velmi t\u00ed\u017eiv\u00e1, bylo to hrozn\u00e9, \u010dasto mi bylo \u0161patn\u011b. Nebylo to tak jednoduch\u00e9, ale zvyk na sch\u016fzky p\u0159etrval, \u010dasto se konaly v zaj\u00edmav\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti. Pot\u00e9, co se setk\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159esunula do Markova v Ostrov\u011b, se uk\u00e1zalo, \u017ee podm\u00ednky jsou vynikaj\u00edc\u00ed. Prvn\u00ed v\u00fdstava, jak si vzpom\u00edn\u00e1m, byla samostatn\u00e1, pak se konaly v\u00fdstavy skupinov\u00e9. Dokonce jsem napsal dopis s pozv\u00e1nkou pro um\u011blce a v\u0161ichni mi odpov\u011bd\u011bli. V\u00fdstavu jsme prezentovali ve sklep\u011b franti\u0161k\u00e1nsk\u00e9ho kl\u00e1\u0161tera v Przemy\u015blu a museli jsme se o ni spole\u010densky postarat. Otcov\u00e9 n\u00e1m umo\u017enili p\u0159\u00edstup do sv\u00e9ho prostoru a nic necenzurovali. Na festivalov\u00fdch v\u00fdstav\u00e1ch byly k vid\u011bn\u00ed i skute\u010dn\u011b \u0161okuj\u00edc\u00ed obrazy, nap\u0159\u00edklad obraz Janusze Szpyta o lidech, kte\u0159\u00ed znesv\u011bcuj\u00ed slova Krista.....<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB: <\/strong>Nikomu to nevadilo?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> Ne, tyto v\u00fdstavy byly kladn\u011b p\u0159ijaty jak franti\u0161k\u00e1ny, tak publikem, a um\u011blci uk\u00e1zali, co cht\u011bli. Sv\u00e9 d\u00edlo p\u0159edstavil tak\u00e9 Zygmunt Czy\u017c, dnes ji\u017e zesnul\u00fd grafik z Rzeszowa. V Polsku bylo tak\u00e9 mnoho zn\u00e1m\u00fdch jmen. Do hnut\u00ed jsem se zapojila po smrti sv\u00e9ho man\u017eela v roce 1985. Jak jsem se ji\u017e zm\u00ednila, prvn\u00ed v\u00fdstava byla \u010dist\u011b p\u0159emyslovsk\u00e1, pak jsme roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159ili v\u00fdb\u011br um\u011blc\u016f podle p\u0159emyslovsk\u00e9 diec\u00e9ze. Dal\u0161\u00ed v\u00fdstavy ji\u017e byly hosty ze zahrani\u010d\u00ed, nap\u0159. Helen Ganly, Edward Robinson, pot\u00e9 v\u00fdznamn\u00fd plen\u00e9r v Krasiczyn\u011b. V tomto \u010d\u00edsle Kulturn\u00ed p\u016fdy na rok 2019 je cel\u00fd kalend\u00e1\u0159... Je v n\u011bm Skotka Margaret Steel Hunterov\u00e1 a profesor David Reagan ze Spojen\u00fdch st\u00e1t\u016f. Velmi d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 jm\u00e9no Marek Sapeto, um\u011blec, kter\u00fd m\u011bl samostatnou v\u00fdstavu. K dispozici je tak\u00e9 spole\u010dn\u00e1 v\u00fdstava Cepinski\/Kosciuk.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB: <\/strong>Ano, v tomto \u010d\u00edsle Podkrov\u00ed 2019 je zve\u0159ejn\u011bna fotografie z posledn\u011b jmenovan\u00e9 v\u00fdstavy. N\u011bkter\u00e9 archivn\u00ed materi\u00e1ly, v\u010detn\u011b fotografi\u00ed, ji\u017e byly \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u011b naskenov\u00e1ny. Chceme to v\u0161echno lidem zp\u0159\u00edstupnit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> Ano, kdy\u017e si prohl\u00ed\u017e\u00edm tyto fotografie, vid\u00edm velmi d\u016fle\u017eitou osobu - otce Partyku. Na fotografii vid\u00edm tak\u00e9 Magdalenu Hniedziewicz, kterou jsme pozvali do festivalov\u00e9 poroty. Pozd\u011bji se k n\u00e1m p\u0159ipojila na del\u0161\u00ed dobu a chodila k n\u00e1m d\u00e1l. Velmi v\u00fdznamn\u00fd um\u011bleck\u00fd kritik. V porot\u011b zasedl tak\u00e9 Kaziu Wi\u015bniak. Je tu tak\u00e9 mal\u00ed\u0159ka Marysia Witkiewiczov\u00e1, o n\u00ed\u017e jsem mluvil v\u010dera na p\u0159edn\u00e1\u0161ce o p\u0159emy\u0161lsk\u00fdch um\u011blkyn\u00edch. Vid\u00edm zde tak\u00e9 obrazy Stanis\u0142awa Koby, ale kolektivn\u00ed v\u00fdstavu. Z t\u00e9 v\u00fdstavy si pamatuji historku, \u017ee Jadwiga Sawicka, tehdej\u0161\u00ed Kobova partnerka, p\u0159inesla na v\u00fdstavu je\u0161t\u011b mokr\u00e9 obrazy, namalovan\u00e9 doslova den p\u0159edt\u00edm. Ve sklep\u011b jsme sledovali ty obrazy, byla to velk\u00e1 m\u00edstnost. Te\u010f m\u011b napad\u00e1, \u017ee to mohlo b\u00fdt i obt\u011b\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed nebo n\u011bjak\u00fd idiot, ale n\u011bkdo ty mokr\u00e9 obrazy prost\u011b ozna\u010dil prstem namo\u010den\u00fdm v barv\u011b a zni\u010dil je. Zaj\u00edmav\u00e9, tady vid\u00edm pozd\u011bj\u0161\u00edho vojvodu Niemkiewicze... V\u016fbec jsme ne\u010dekali, \u017ee se n\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed z n\u00e1s pozd\u011bji stanou politiky na vojvodsk\u00e9 nebo celost\u00e1tn\u00ed \u00farovni.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB: <\/strong>Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to nikdo ne\u010dekal. A c\u00edtili jste na z\u00e1dech dech bezpe\u010dnostn\u00edch slo\u017eek?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN: <\/strong>V\u011bt\u0161inou jsme v\u011bd\u011bli, \u017ee n\u00e1s sleduj\u00ed, \u017ee za n\u00e1mi jezd\u00ed auty a parkuj\u00ed na m\u00edst\u011b setk\u00e1n\u00ed. Byli jsme si toho v\u011bdomi. Nap\u0159\u00edklad v na\u0161\u00ed Libe\u0159e dnes prod\u00e1vali nez\u00e1visl\u00e9 knihy jej\u00ed spolumajitel\u00e9 Beata a Jurek Bonarekovi. Tak\u00e9 jsem nosil takov\u00e9 knihy. Je\u0161t\u011b za \u017eivota sv\u00e9ho man\u017eela, kter\u00fd zem\u0159el v roce 1983, jsem podporovala KOR a m\u011bla vlastn\u00ed z\u00e1sobovac\u00ed kan\u00e1l v Rzeszow\u011b. Barbara Tondosov\u00e1 a Jerzy Tur - v\u00fdznamn\u00ed historici um\u011bn\u00ed spjat\u00ed se Solidaritou - od nich jsem p\u0159evzal ta\u0161ky s knihami, kter\u00e9 byly zakoupeny. Obecn\u011b bylo toto centrum v Przemy\u015blu velmi siln\u00e9, zmi\u0148ovan\u00e9 v publikac\u00edch o n\u00e1rodn\u00edch centrech.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB:<\/strong> Na v\u0161echny tyto lidi a ud\u00e1losti m\u00e1\u0161 \u00fa\u017easnou pam\u011b\u0165. Mluvil jsem s n\u011bkolika lidmi a s touto pam\u011bt\u00ed je to jinak....<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> D\u011bkujeme. A tady vid\u00edm Jacka Fedorowicze. Osobn\u011b jsem ho p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010dil, aby prod\u00e1val sv\u00e1 d\u00edla na setk\u00e1n\u00edch autor\u016f. V t\u00e9 dob\u011b jsem je m\u011bl tak\u00e9 ve sv\u00e9m obchod\u011b - spoustu satirick\u00fdch kreseb, v\u010detn\u011b jedn\u00e9 s Walesou. Byl mi za to velmi vd\u011b\u010dn\u00fd, proto\u017ee se t\u00edm v t\u00e9 dob\u011b tak\u00e9 \u017eivil. Dokonce sem do Przemy\u015blu p\u0159ijel b\u011bhem prvn\u00edch voleb, aby podpo\u0159il v\u00fdbory jako pod\u011bkov\u00e1n\u00ed. A dal\u0161\u00ed p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh, kter\u00fd se k n\u011bmu v\u00e1\u017ee, je ten, \u017ee u m\u011b na chv\u00edli z\u016fstal na n\u00e1v\u0161t\u011bv\u011b. Jeden z m\u00fdch koleg\u016f se m\u011b tehdy zeptal, jak m\u011b m\u016f\u017ee takto odhalit... Tadek Boruta, kter\u00fd nyn\u00ed vydal takovou publikaci, kter\u00e1 by v\u00e1s mohla zaj\u00edmat. Um\u011blci se pod\u00edleli na grafick\u00e9m designu ti\u0161t\u011bn\u00fdch vyd\u00e1n\u00ed \"Kulturn\u00ed p\u016fdy\". Prvn\u00ed vyd\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159ipravil Miros\u0142aw Koco\u0142, po n\u011bm n\u00e1sledovali Jadwiga Sawicka a Stanis\u0142aw Koba. Jednalo se o graficky velmi zaj\u00edmav\u00e9 pr\u00e1ce. Mirek v\u0161e graficky zpracoval a provedl sazbu. Mikrutov\u00e9 byli od po\u010d\u00e1tku tak\u00e9 v kulturn\u00ed p\u016fd\u011b. Ko\u015bciuk tak\u00e9 kreslil. Vizu\u00e1ln\u00ed str\u00e1nka byla po celou dobu d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1 a byla prov\u00e1d\u011bna profesion\u00e1ly na vysok\u00e9 \u00farovni. Sc\u00e9nografii v\u00fdstavy \u010clov\u011bk - B\u016fh - Sv\u011bt vytvo\u0159il Tadek Nuckowski, jeden z nejv\u00fdznamn\u011bj\u0161\u00edch p\u0159emy\u0161lsk\u00fdch v\u00fdtvarn\u00edk\u016f. Na tvorb\u011b cel\u00e9ho grafick\u00e9ho prost\u0159ed\u00ed se pod\u00edleli tak v\u00fdznamn\u00ed um\u011blci jako Andrzej Cieszynski. Mariusz Ko\u015bciuk se pozd\u011bji p\u0159est\u011bhoval do \"\u017bycie Przemyskie\", nyn\u00ed \"Podkarpacki\", a stal se grafikem v redakci. Um\u011blce na akce a plen\u00e9ry l\u00e1kala Marta Siennick\u00e1, proto\u017ee \u017eila ve Var\u0161av\u011b a znala tamn\u00ed prost\u0159ed\u00ed. Bylo tak\u00e9 mo\u017en\u00e9 nav\u00e1zat kontakty v zahrani\u010d\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB:<\/strong> M\u016f\u017eete n\u00e1m \u0159\u00edct, jak se v\u00e1m poda\u0159ilo p\u0159il\u00e1kat lidi ze Z\u00e1padu?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN: <\/strong>P\u0159i\u0161li sem pravd\u011bpodobn\u011b trochu n\u00e1hodou a trochu ze zv\u011bdavosti. Zahrani\u010dn\u00ed um\u011blci mohli na svou cestu z\u00edskat stipendia a dotace od sv\u00fdch zahrani\u010dn\u00edch instituc\u00ed. Nez\u00e1visl\u00e9 hnut\u00ed v Polsku m\u011blo tak\u00e9 sv\u016fj vlastn\u00ed rozpo\u010det, a tak z\u00edskalo prost\u0159edky na sv\u016fj p\u0159\u00edjezd. O tom se nemluvilo, ale bylo to tak. P\u0159ijeli dokonce i n\u00e1v\u0161t\u011bvn\u00edci ze Spojen\u00fdch st\u00e1t\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed hovo\u0159ili mimo jin\u00e9 o jejich vzd\u011bl\u00e1vac\u00edm syst\u00e9mu. Mluvili o negramotnosti a o tom, \u017ee americk\u00e9 \u0161kolstv\u00ed nen\u00ed dokonal\u00e9. T\u00e9mata byla z\u00e1va\u017en\u00e1 a prob\u011bhlo mnoho skv\u011bl\u00fdch p\u0159edn\u00e1\u0161ek a diskus\u00ed. P\u0159i\u0161la velk\u00e1 jm\u00e9na, nap\u0159\u00edklad Leszek Moczulski, skupina \u0141\u00f3d\u017a Kaliska. Bylo opravdu skv\u011bl\u00e9, \u017ee sem p\u0159ijeli. Mimo jin\u00e9 jsem je ubytov\u00e1val u sebe doma. V\u0161e se odehr\u00e1lo trochu soukrom\u011b, trochu ofici\u00e1ln\u011b, ale rozhodn\u011b nez\u00e1visle na sob\u011b. Marek Kuchci\u0144ski m\u011bl vlastn\u00ed d\u016fm, kde mohl ubytovat prakticky ka\u017ed\u00e9ho.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AB: <\/strong>Ano, v dne\u0161n\u00ed dob\u011b to m\u016f\u017ee vypadat \u00fapln\u011b jinak. Um\u011blci by p\u0159esp\u00e1vali v hotel\u00edch, sch\u016fzky by se konaly v konferen\u010dn\u00ed m\u00edstnosti nebo v um\u011bleck\u00e9 galerii.....<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GN:<\/strong> Ve skute\u010dnosti p\u0159ich\u00e1zeli do divok\u00e9 zem\u011b. Divok\u00fd a komunistick\u00fd. Vzpom\u00edn\u00e1m si na jednu takovou anekdotu, kdy\u017e jsem Helen Ganlyovou vzal na plen\u00e9r po\u0159\u00e1dan\u00fd Januszem Cywickim do Slonne. \u0158ekl jsem j\u00ed: Helen jedeme do star\u00e9ho u\u010ditelsk\u00e9ho centra a podm\u00ednky tam budou stra\u0161n\u00e9. Helena se nenechala odradit a \u0161la. Asi po t\u00fddnu jsme jeli autem do m\u00e9ho domu v Przemy\u015blu pro n\u011bjak\u00e9 v\u011bci. U m\u011b doma Helen potaj\u00ed vyt\u00e1hla ze sk\u0159\u00edn\u011b povlaky na pol\u0161t\u00e1\u0159e. Kdy\u017e jsem to vid\u011bl, zeptal jsem se j\u00ed, pro\u010d si je bere. \u0158ekla mi, \u017ee chce m\u00edt ve sv\u00e9m pokoji ve S\u0142onnu povle\u010den\u00ed. Na to jsem odpov\u011bd\u011bl: Helen, je tam p\u0159ece l\u016f\u017ekoviny! Uk\u00e1zalo se v\u0161ak, \u017ee tam na ten t\u00fdden dostala postel bez povle\u010den\u00ed. Ale b\u011bhem t\u00e9 doby nem\u011bla tu drzost, aby si to v centru n\u00e1rokovala. Chud\u00e1k tehdy spal pod dekou a vzal si m\u00e1 slova o \u0161patn\u00fdch podm\u00ednk\u00e1ch k srdci... O rok pozd\u011bji Helen \u0159ekla, \u017ee Viney z Indie p\u0159ijede na vzduch, ale mus\u00ed se ka\u017ed\u00fd den koupat, upozornil. A zeptala se, jak to d\u011bl\u00e1me v tomto letovisku, proto\u017ee tam p\u0159ece nen\u00ed \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd h\u00e1\u010dek v koupeln\u011b, tak\u017ee je tam soukrom\u00ed. A pro n\u00e1s bylo norm\u00e1ln\u00ed, \u017ee kdy\u017e n\u011bkdo obsad\u00ed koupelnu, tak to jen sly\u0161\u00edte a nejdete dovnit\u0159. To byly rozd\u00edly z\u00e1padn\u00edho sv\u011bta, kter\u00e9 se \u010dasem projevily docela vtipn\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem. Na prvn\u00edm plen\u00e9ru u otce Bartminsk\u00e9ho v Krasiczyn\u011b, co\u017e byl \u00fa\u017easn\u00fd \u010dlov\u011bk, ale to je na samostatn\u00fd p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh, byly na fa\u0159e tak\u00e9 \u0161patn\u00e9 podm\u00ednky. Vzpom\u00edn\u00e1m si, \u017ee tam byl pokoj a v n\u011bm palandy a deky. Na druhou stranu j\u00eddlo bylo skv\u011bl\u00e9. V\u017edy\u0165 slavn\u00e1 babi\u010dka Jo\u017ea ze seri\u00e1lu Pleb\u00e1nie byla vytvo\u0159ena podle t\u00e9 na fa\u0159e v Krasiczyn\u011b! Vzpom\u00edn\u00e1m si, \u017ee Janek Jarosz, tehdy mlad\u00fd chlapec a dnes \u0159editel N\u00e1rodn\u00edho muzea P\u0159emy\u0161lska v Przemy\u015blu, jezdil na var\u0161avsk\u00e9 leti\u0161t\u011b pro lidi. Jednou dokonce zvedl jednoho hosta, o kter\u00e9m se dalo \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee je jeho dvojn\u00edkem. Nebyl to ale p\u0159\u00edjemn\u00fd host, mysl\u00edm, \u017ee n\u00e1s trochu zneu\u017eil. Pot\u00e9, co se ho ve Vratislavi zbavili, m\u011bl u m\u011b dokonce n\u011bjakou dobu z\u016fstat. V m\u00e9m byt\u011b bylo v t\u00e9 dob\u011b pom\u011brn\u011b hodn\u011b lid\u00ed. V t\u00e9 dob\u011b se konal festival \u010clov\u011bk-B\u016fh-Sv\u011bt a po skon\u010den\u00ed festivalu t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 v\u0161ichni p\u0159i\u0161li ke mn\u011b. N\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed host\u00e9 myli n\u00e1dob\u00ed, jin\u00ed se na chodb\u011b u\u010dili j\u00f3gu, n\u011bkdo telefonoval do Var\u0161avy, n\u011bkdo v jin\u00e9m pokoji plakal. V\u0161ichni se k sob\u011b tak p\u0159itiskli, \u017ee budouc\u00ed host ze strachu ode\u0161el k n\u011bkomu jin\u00e9mu. V t\u00e9 dob\u011b jsem m\u011bl na starosti um\u011bleckou sf\u00e9ru, hosty, zat\u00edmco Marek m\u011bl s Janem Musialem na starosti sp\u00ed\u0161e intelektu\u00e1ln\u00ed sf\u00e9ru. D\u011blali pap\u00edrov\u00e9ho Strycha. Je zaj\u00edmav\u00e9, \u017ee um\u011blci ze Z\u00e1padu se n\u00e1m sna\u017eili namluvit, \u017ee syst\u00e9m, ve kter\u00e9m \u017eijeme, n\u00e1s v jist\u00e9m smyslu chr\u00e1n\u00ed. Cht\u011bli t\u00edm \u0159\u00edci, \u017ee na voln\u00e9m trhu existuj\u00ed probl\u00e9my finan\u010dn\u00ed povahy, zejm\u00e9na p\u0159i zaji\u0161\u0165ov\u00e1n\u00ed d\u016fchodu. Tyto probl\u00e9my se objevuj\u00ed ji\u017e v sou\u010dasnosti, ale tehdy jsme to nech\u00e1pali. Vypr\u00e1v\u011bli n\u00e1m tak\u00e9 o T\u00fddnu um\u011bn\u00ed, kdy um\u011bn\u00ed doslova vy\u0161lo do ulic m\u011bsta, otev\u0159eli ateli\u00e9ry ve\u0159ejnosti, co\u017e pro n\u00e1s bylo n\u011bco inovativn\u00edho. Tato v\u00fdm\u011bna zku\u0161enost\u00ed byla opravdu zaj\u00edmav\u00e1 a d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1. Pokud si vzpom\u00edn\u00e1m, pozd\u011bji se po\u0159\u00e1daly tak\u00e9 aukce um\u011bleck\u00fdch d\u011bl, jejich\u017e v\u00fdt\u011b\u017eek \u0161el na volebn\u00ed kampa\u0148 Solidarity. Jedna takov\u00e1 aukce se konala na n\u00e1m\u011bst\u00ed Rynek 10 v Przemy\u015blu a v muzeu. Tyto aukce jsem vedl j\u00e1 a v\u0161echna d\u00edla se prodala. Ceny nebyly nijak p\u0159emr\u0161t\u011bn\u00e9, ale d\u016fle\u017eit\u00fd byl \u00fa\u010del. Lid\u00e9 v t\u00e9 dob\u011b neznali hodnotu d\u011bl. V Krasiczyn\u011b vedl Marek Kuchci\u0144ski setk\u00e1n\u00ed, konference, kter\u00e9 mimochodem pokra\u010duj\u00ed dodnes pod jin\u00fdm n\u00e1zvem (nyn\u00ed Europa Karpat). V t\u00e9 dob\u011b jsme krom\u011b ka\u017edodenn\u00ed pr\u00e1ce uspo\u0159\u00e1dali asi 50 v\u00fdstav. Cel\u00e1 organizace trvala velmi dlouho, spo\u010d\u00edvala v psan\u00ed korespondence, kontaktov\u00e1n\u00ed lid\u00ed. Logistika spo\u010d\u00edvala hlavn\u011b na Markovi, kter\u00fd m\u011bl v t\u00e9 dob\u011b krom\u011b domu i auto zna\u010dky Toyota. Bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed slu\u017eba mu dokonce dala p\u0159ezd\u00edvku \"Toyota\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Dotazovan\u00fd Alexander Busz<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Gra\u017cyna Niezgoda! 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